Now the BNP want to sink immigrant boats

Nick Griffin, from the BNP, advocating that the EU sink immigrant ships to stop immigration.

Nick Griffin is about to take his seat in the European Parliament.

Griffin: “If there’s measures to set up some kind of force for to help say the Italians, set up a force which actually blocks the Mediterranean, then we’d support that. But the only measure sooner or later which is going to stop immigration and stop large numbers of sub-Saharan Africans dying on the way to get over here is to get very tough with those coming over, frankly they need to sink several of those boats. Anyone coming up with measures like that we’ll support. But anything which is there as a ‘oh we need to so something about it’ but in the end doing something about it means bringing them into Europe we’ll oppose.”

Reporter: “I don’t think the EU is in the business of actually murdering people at sea, but it’s interesting that for somebody that wants withdrawal from the EU you would support an EU frontier control agency and the strengthening of that, is that what, if I understand your wording…”

Griffin: “Well I didn’t say anybody should be murdered at sea, I say that boats should be sunk, they can throw them a liferaft, and they can go back to Libya. Europe has sooner or later to close it’s borders or it’s simply going to be swamped by the third world, this is a camp of the saints scenario, it’s madness to let it go on.”

I’m trying to imagine how you could sink a boat, and decamp everyone onto a liferaft, and expect all on board to survive.

2 comments to Now the BNP want to sink immigrant boats

  • dave

    A comment has been received from Dave.

    My message to dave is thus:
    Come on, if you’re going to write a generalistic theses, to attempt to strike fear into people’s minds, to make them back your cause by default, BACK UP YOUR COMMENTS WITH SOURCES.

    “I’m trying to imagine how you could sink a boat, and decamp everyone onto a liferaft, and expect all on board to survive.”

    Yes there will be small amount that do drown, but thats the point of the message the boats sinkings send, ‘do not come here, it is not worth it.’

    I’m trying to imagine how Europe will look in 30 years time if this flood of people isnt stopped.

    Two schoolboys were given detention after refusing to kneel down and ‘pray to Allah’ during a religious education lesson.

    Parents were outraged that the two boys from year seven (11 to 12-year-olds) were punished for not wanting to take part in the practical demonstration of how Allah is worshipped.

    They said forcing their children to take part in the exercise at Alsager High School, near Stoke-on-Trent – which included wearing Muslim headgear – was a breach of their human rights.

    One parent, Sharon Luinen, said: “This isn’t right, it’s taking things too far.

    “I understand that they have to learn about other religions. I can live with that but it is taking it a step too far to be punished because they wouldn’t join in Muslim prayer.

    “Making them pray to Allah, who isn’t who they worship, is wrong and what got me is that they were told they were being disrespectful.

    “I don’t want this to look as if I have a problem with the school because I am generally very happy with it.”

    Another parent Karen Williams said: “I am absolutely furious my daughter was made to take part in it and I don’t find it acceptable.

    “I haven’t got a problem with them teaching my child other religions and a small amount of information doesn’t do any harm.

    “But not only did they have to pray, the teacher had gone into the class and made them watch a short film and then said ‘we are now going out to pray to Allah’.

    “Then two boys got detention and all the other children missed their refreshment break because of the teacher.

    “Not only was it forced upon them, my daughter was told off for not doing it right.

    “They’d never done it before and they were supposed to do it in another language.”

    “My child has been forced to pray to Allah in a school lesson.” The grandfather of one of the pupils in the class said: “It’s absolutely disgusting, there’s no other way of putting it.

    “My daughter and a lot of other mothers are furious about their children being made to kneel on the floor and pray to Islam. If they didn’t do it they were given detention.

    “I am not racist, I’ve been friendly with an Indian for 30 years. I’ve also been to a Muslim wedding where it was explained to me that alcohol would not be served and I respected that.

    “But if Muslims were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.”

    Parents said that their children were made to bend down on their knees on prayer mats which the RE teacher had got out of her cupboard and they were also told to wear Islamic headgear during the lesson on Tuesday afternoon.

    Deputy headmaster Keith Plant said: “It’s difficult to know at the moment whether this was part of the curriculum or not. I am not an RE teacher, I am an English teacher.

    “At the moment it is our enterprise week and many of our members of staff are away.

    “The particular member of staff you need to speak to isn’t around. I think that it is a shame that so many parents have got in touch with the Press before coming to me.

    “I have spoken to the teacher and she has articulately given me her version of events, but that is all I can give you at the moment.”

    A statement from Cheshire County Council on behalf of the school read: “The headteacher David Black contacted this authority immediately complaints were received.

    “Enquiries are being made into the circumstances as a matter of urgency and all parents will be informed accordingly.

    “Educating children in the beliefs of different faith is part of the diversity curriculum on the basis that knowledge is essential to understanding.

    “We accept that such teaching is to be conducted with some sense of sensitivity.”

    Migrants are going to Britain, come hell or high water
    Gazing across the Channel in the direction of the white cliffs of Dover, Amir Gul stood on Calais beach and imagined himself on the other side – and living the dream that has brought him 3,500 miles from Afghanistan.

    “A hundred times in the past month I have tried to get into lorries,” the 15-year-old said in fluent English. “The police or drivers always throw me off and sometimes they beat me. But I will not stop until I reach London, unless I am killed trying, even if it takes me a year.”

    In the sand dunes and scraps of waste ground around Calais, a ragged army of migrants desperate to breach British border controls is slowly growing in number, and they are as determined as ever.

    Nobody is sure how many live in the squatter camps or sleep rough in parks, but the United Nations estimates that there are now around 1,500 in the Calais area alone – a figure steadily approaching the 2,500 who were to be found at Sangatte refugee camp before it was closed in 2002.

    Security has been tightened at the port and far fewer illegal migrants get through to Britain now, according to the UK’s Border Control Agency. It told The Sunday Telegraph that effective control of Calais port and the routes across the Channel was a success story.

    But the fact that it is harder to reach Britain merely means that the migrants – almost all of them men and boys – hang around in Calais for even longer, months instead of weeks, as they attempt to stow away on lorries or in cars.

    Meanwhile they live in conditions which are so appalling that last week the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees opened an office in the town, only the second in Europe for an agency which is more typically found in troublespots like Congo or Pakistan.

    UN officials feel they must do something for the inhabitants of the stinking “jungles” where desperate men and boys fight each other with knives and suffer diseases like scabies and TB, as the filth, frustration and violence take their toll.

    The UNHCR works with hard-pressed charities that try to help the migrants and encourages them to apply for asylum in France. But only 120 enquiries have been made in the past month.

    “France is no good. I want to get into London because I will get a house and money, and I can work there,” said an Afghan man who was killing time in a park until nightfall, when he was going to look for a lorry to hide in.

    On the beach, French families in swimming trunks and bikinis were enjoying themselves in the sunshine apparently oblivious to the young Afghans and Iraqis washing their grimy clothes in the surf.

    Mr Gul knows it could be months before he successfully stows away in a lorry – or even in the boot of an unwary motorist – and sneak across the Channel to his promised land, now so tantalisingly close.

    Until then he will have to sleep rough in a filthy camp, hidden in a thicket of thorn bushes behind the beach. He sleeps under a plastic tarpaulin donated by a charity, trying to ignore the stench from the surrounding bushes which are used as a lavatory.

    Every day at noon he walks through the suburbs of Calais to a soup kitchen in a car park, where gangs of Africans, Iraqis and Afghans jostle and argue in the queue. Tribal and ethnic differences rankle, and knives are pulled when tempers fray.

    Caroline Nazanin, a nurse who has worked in the camps, said: “The frustration drives some of them crazy – they become violent and fight each other when arguments get out of control.”

    Yet despite all this, Mr Gul had no interest in seeking asylum in France. He was determined to stay in Calais for as long as it takes for him to stow away succesfully and get to Britain.

    Marie-Ange Lascure, UNHCR’s spokeswoman, said migrants were arriving in bigger numbers than a few years ago. “They want to go to England because the people smugglers tell them it is a beautiful place, where they can easily earn money to send home to their families,” she said.

    Persuading them to instead claim asylum in France was a struggle, she admitted.

    Under an EU rule whereby an asylum claim must be made in the first safe port of entry, if the migrants have already been fingerprinted on arrival in Greece or Italy the French authorities can deport them back there.

    So some migrants scar their fingertips by heating up a plate until it is hot, then pressing their fingers to it. For several weeks the fingers are too blistered for prints to be taken, providing temporary relief from the risk of deportation if they are arrested or checked.

    Residents of Calais have become increasingly worried by the growing desperation of migrants, and last year elected a conservative-minded mayor, Natacha Bouchart, who blames the temptation of Britain’s generous welfare state for attracting migrants to their town. “Calais is a hostage to the British,” she complained earlier this year.

    Jean-Lou Hereng, 46, who owns a café near the biggest camp, known as the “jungle”, said: “The problem is as bad as it has ever been. They are aggressive and dirty, and there are fights between them.”

    Other Frenchmen are more sympathetic. “It is difficult for us, and it is difficult for them,” said Jonathan Corbeau, 22, a welder who lived almost opposite an encampment of Afghans. Nevertheless, he had put up a strong fence and bought a dog after his wife was molested by migrants a few weeks ago.

    French police frequently raid the camps, and sometimes destroy them. Sixteen vanloads of CRS riot police arrived on Thursday as bulldozers levelled a derelict warehouse which 30 Sudanese from the war-torn province of Darfur had been using as a temporary home.

    “My money and clothes are now buried under there,” one of them said, gesturing at a pile of tons of debris. He had simply moved with his friends a few yards to a take over a small park.

    Many of the Afghans, who are now the majority of migrants at Calais, said they had fled the Taliban. Samim Siddique, 24, from Khost, rolled up his trouser leg to show a bayonet scar where he had been tortured by terrorists who wanted him to carry a bomb into the university where he was studying.

    “The Taliban don’t like education, and there was no place where I would be safe from them in Afghanistan,” he said. “We all want to go to England, we speak the language and we can work there. I want to study IT, and then set up a print business.

    “We hate being in this camp, it is the life of an animal here. We have to wait for months to get into a lorry, but every week a couple of boys don’t come back in the morning – they have caught a lorry across the sea.

    “I will keep trying. One day I will get to England.”

    Muslims living in Britain are under orders from Sharia courts to regard “fighting with Britons and Americans as a religious duty” a shocking new report on Sharia courts in Britain has claimed.

    Issued by independent think tank Civitas, the new report, called “Sharia Law or ‘One Law for All’?” and authored by Islamic specialist Denis MacEoin, also says that there are now around 85 Sharia courts in Britain.

    The open declaration of war – Jihad – against ordinary British and American people by Islamic law courts is a damning indictment of the treason committed by the Tory and Labour parties in allowing millions of Muslims to settle in Britain.

    In addition to the horrifying declaration of holy war against British and American people, the Sharia courts operating in Britain have also ordered that:

    - Sharia law must override the judgements of British courts;

    - Muslims living in this country are under orders to disobey Britain’s laws when it contradicts Islamic values;

    - Muslims are forbidden to take out insurance, even if required by (UK) law.

    - There is no requirement to register a marriage according to the law of the country;

    - Polygamous marriage (that is, two to four wives) is legal; and

    - A Muslim lawyer has to act contrary to UK law where it contradicts Sharia.

    According to a press release issued today by Civitas, the courts operate inside the rapidly spreading network of mosques throughout Britain.

    In the press release, Mr MacEoin wrote that it is extremely difficult to find out what goes on in these 85 courts, so he has relied on a range of fatwas issued by popular online fatwa sites, run out of or accessed through mosques in the UK as an indication of the sort of rulings these Sharia courts are making.

    Only five of the Sharia law courts are publicly known and run by the Muslim Arbitration Tribunal, a body whose rulings are enforced through the state courts under the 1996 Arbitration Act.

    However, Mr MacEoin said that “Sharia courts should not be recognised under the Arbitration Act.

    “Sharia courts operating in Britain may be handing down rulings that are inappropriate to this country because they are linked to elements in Islamic law that are seriously out of step with trends in Western legislation,” Mr MacEoin wrote.

    The revelation that Sharia rulings or fatwas are being enforced through state courts by the Muslim Arbitration Tribunal (MAT) has alarmed many, especially as the Arbitration Act, under which this takes place, specifically excludes divorce and childcare cases.

    “Under most interpretations of Islam a person who leaves the faith is an apostate who can be put to death. While this threat remains, it cannot be accepted that Sharia councils are nothing more than independent arbitrators guided by faith,” the Civitas press release continued.

    “The reality is that for many Muslims, Sharia courts are in practice part of an institutionalised atmosphere of intimidation, backed by the ultimate sanction of a death threat. The underlying problem is that Sharia law reflects male-dominated Asian and Arabic cultures. It cannot therefore be accepted as a legally valid basis even for settling private disagreements in a country like ours, where our law embodies the equal legal status of everyone, regardless of race, gender or religion.”

    Mr MacEoin wrote in his conclusion that the “introduction of Sharia law into this country is a recipe for a dichotomous legal system that holds Muslims and non-Muslims to different standards.

    “This is not a matter of eating halal meat or seeking God’s blessing on one’s marriage. It is a challenge to what we believe to be the rights and freedoms of the individual, to our concept of a legal system based on what Parliament enacts, and to the right of all of us to live in a society as free as possible from ethnic-religious division or communal claims to superiority and a special status that puts them in some respects above the law to which we are all bound.”

    * In their coverage of the Civitas press release, all of the mainstream media deliberately suppressed the part dealing with the Sharia courts’ declaration of Jihad against British and American people.

    Sharia courts are operating in Britain, handing down rulings that may be inappropriate to this country, being linked to elements in Islamic law that are seriously out of step with trends in Western legislation that derive from the values of the Enlightenment and are inherent in modern codes of human rights. Sharia rulings contain great potential for controversy and may involve acts contrary to UK legal norms and human rights legislation. Denis MacEoin argues against the wider use of sharia law.

    Need I continue?

    • fnar

      Dave was very kind in giving us some screen-scrapings of propaganda. There was an incident in Cheshire some time ago, where a teacher tried to get her class to experience a Muslim prayer. That is not an example of how most schools operate. Most teachers would get rather annoyed at the BNP if someone said to their face that all schools are teaching Muslim prayers to children. Anyway, isn’t it just like the time I was at school and had to try out aerobics with the girls?

      Then Dave tells us about migrants in Calais trying to get to the UK. Rather than be damning on the French, for leaving the migrants in Calais, Dave chose to quote the new mayor of the town, who thinks the UK is too liberal.

      Finally, Dave goes on a lot about Sharia courts operating in the UK. I have researched this topic quite extensively in the past, to the point where I just don’t want to begin tearing Dave’s argument apart, it’s full of so many holes, lacks credible sources and actually contradicts itself in places.

      Ladies and Gentlemen, behold Dave’s post as a prime example of the propaganda this excuse for a party think we British people are gullible enough to believe.

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